A major contract has been signed for the supply of solar panels derived from CERN technology
25 thoughts on “CERN News – Solar panels with a CERN technology”
Z1BABOUINOS
@kurtilein3
We don’t have to wait 35y, if we focus and spend on the one real solution. FUSION.
What impact on climate do you expect from solar?
Everything been done so far, contributes only to 0,064% (!) of the world’s electricity production.
Wanna double it the next 10 years?
I say triple it! So what? You might keep the same % just from the increased demand.
We “need” 35 years, because some people want it like that.
The oil industry, and now the “Green” industry.
Global effort on FUSION.
NOW!
OGrice
@Z1BABOUINOS i shit on anglela. she destroyed the market, her party blocked a state-owned industry and dealed with warcriminals like US/UK/Netherlands/France on oil by false facts about iraq with the BND. right after sb from the third world bought or lend his first panels he’ll begin to earn money for his first car, to produce goods and so on.. it makes no sense to discuss this issues with u, because you’re not interested in anything.
OGrice
@HarrysSecret you dont need full time power. you need damned overcapacities to backup. there are already tested silicon-cells for difuse light and the UK has an enormous windmill potential to do the rest.
kurtilein3
@Z1BABOUINOS
oh, ok. 2 days ago i watched a lecture about ITER. i was shocked to hear that while contruction is starting, first plasma will be in 2027. If iter is then a HUGE success and things move faster from there, first demonstration reactor might follow 20 years later.
Thats just TOO SLOW. If we want to have an impact on climate change, we need to look at timescales between 2 and 5 years, maximum of 10 years.
doing NOTHING for 35+ years to wait for fusion just isnt an option.
Z1BABOUINOS
@OGrice
Enough calculations done here:
goo.gl /nAF9O
When personal or national interests supersede what is good for ALL, opinions like yours will prevail.
Lets see how many panels you’ll sell to the averege indian, african or even american.
I guess enough for the german industrial machine to continue to return profits.
That’s the whole idea/plan behind it after all, eh?
C’mon… Admit it!
Angela’s panels, Ãœber Alles!
:-p
HarrysSecret
Oh how I wish the UK got enough sun to use solar power full time.
The UK should be towed towards the Med asap.
OGrice
@Z1BABOUINOS pff whats real? firstly you cant enforce a steady fusion by money and secondly is it everything else than guaranteed green or thirdly CHEAP.. real are 30 year proofed technologies easily made of cheap dust and without a handicap for people from behind the moon. you are just too lazy to use a calculator..
Z1BABOUINOS
@kurtilein3
The conversation we had, wasn’t about this video anyway. We talked about the efficiency of solar (and other green sources) in general, and about another video. If we keep pushing and spending in inefficient sources, instead of fusion, the real solution to the global problem, won’t be solved in 50 or even 100 years, in the present pace.
Governments are spending too much in very expensive and inefficient >band-aids<.
Unless, you're trying to hide what the REAL point is…
OGrice
@kurtilein3 i also didnt read it really. its in fact just a hot medium in solar thermic plant. was irritated by the bad pictures. thought its a double way plant like i know it from the swiss already. 900wp/m2 isnt really bad. that may be 6300wh/day of thermal heat.that fits for larger buildings or industrial complexes,i prefer sheer electric power before consumption decreasing like insulation or improved water heating because there is a 96% effectivness on heating with electricity. quanta costa?
kurtilein3
@Z1BABOUINOS
that doesnt apply here. These solar collectors, in the video, do not produce electricity….. But hot water. Solar collectors for hot water are much cheaper to produce (mirrors, metal tubes, black paint, no silicone crystals, no semiconductors), and much more effective. They dont increase energy production, but decrease energy consumption.
So your criticism just misses the point.
szakeetm
I wonder if commentary guy will fall asleep by the end of the video
Z1BABOUINOS
@OGrice
You are not paying attention. Prof Cox does not address the cost issue. He assumes it is solved, and continues to how possible it is.
The enormous cost is a huge obstacle of course, BUT EVEN IF we bypass it somehow(?), the task itself, is ridiculously IMPOSSIBLE.
And if you rely on solar ALONE, then… it’s a joke. Crazy numbers, man!
And why is that? Cause simply, solar/wind/biof, are totally inefficient, even if combined together.
Fusion power ftw!
All the rest is noise….
OGrice
i’d really like to talk with the young girls from roskosmos who were in their latest clip. they’ve got knowlegde. and i’d really like to know what type of thin cells they used for their satellites..
OGrice
if a fusion is established all over the world in 50 years or more, you can pick em all up and burn em to what you want.
OGrice
they’re also a safe for ressources like aluminum or copper, because they dont run away if settled one time. they’ll never get worthless, even after 30 or 40 years or more. they’re mobile enough to be sold second or thirdtime as used items.
OGrice
@Acecool444 the hull of cells is sth to improve. the cells have to be welded into plastic or similar to make em leak-proof and to use the effect of reflecting unused spectrum as well as a lens effect.
OGrice
@Z1BABOUINOS they don’t have to be efficient, they have to be cheap and to be obtainable like drinking water. thats possible with the most tested components we got, not with the newest or best.
Acecool444
In other words, Keep It Simple Stupid!
Acecool444
What about the MAGNIFYING GLASS? (could also be made of resin/plastics) Multiplying the suns rays? Now multiply thousands of them together per panel, then distance and angle them with the sun via computer timer and pressurized hydraulics. You could harness enough electricity over time to heat and energize just about anything.
Z1BABOUINOS
@OGrice
Watch how many holes you have to burn in your ass, to call solar panels “efficient”…
CERN scientist, particle physicist, B.Cox, 4 min video from BBC:
goo.gl /nAF9O
OGrice
@Dasmaster1 yeah you answered good^^ phoenix uploaded just a few minutes ago an interview with the chemist fritz vahrenholt from REpower who said co2 caused maybe only 50% of the delayed warm-up.. every guy who made a measurement in his life knows, that even the smallest input causes enormous errors – what did that guy ever do in his labratory? he’s still selling his age of fire..
22mar79
Great news, sirs. May the whole world adhere, so the greed based on the struggle for combustible resources may be at least diminished. Let’s together put an end to the age of fire in which man is caught, once for all.
Dasmaster1
@OGrice I agree. People buying solar panels dont do it because of effectiveness. I was just answer another guys who complained about the bad efficiency solar panels have and that its the reason why there are not more of them.
OGrice
@Z1BABOUINOS burns a second hole in your ass if you launch it tomorrow^^
OGrice
i’m a fan of different types of panels and would always prefer an oldschool silicon-cell with an absolut sure effiency and reliability. i dont see any problems to cut wavers with the speed of light or to fix em somehow somewhere.
@kurtilein3
We don’t have to wait 35y, if we focus and spend on the one real solution. FUSION.
What impact on climate do you expect from solar?
Everything been done so far, contributes only to 0,064% (!) of the world’s electricity production.
Wanna double it the next 10 years?
I say triple it! So what? You might keep the same % just from the increased demand.
We “need” 35 years, because some people want it like that.
The oil industry, and now the “Green” industry.
Global effort on FUSION.
NOW!
@Z1BABOUINOS i shit on anglela. she destroyed the market, her party blocked a state-owned industry and dealed with warcriminals like US/UK/Netherlands/France on oil by false facts about iraq with the BND. right after sb from the third world bought or lend his first panels he’ll begin to earn money for his first car, to produce goods and so on.. it makes no sense to discuss this issues with u, because you’re not interested in anything.
@HarrysSecret you dont need full time power. you need damned overcapacities to backup. there are already tested silicon-cells for difuse light and the UK has an enormous windmill potential to do the rest.
@Z1BABOUINOS
oh, ok. 2 days ago i watched a lecture about ITER. i was shocked to hear that while contruction is starting, first plasma will be in 2027. If iter is then a HUGE success and things move faster from there, first demonstration reactor might follow 20 years later.
Thats just TOO SLOW. If we want to have an impact on climate change, we need to look at timescales between 2 and 5 years, maximum of 10 years.
doing NOTHING for 35+ years to wait for fusion just isnt an option.
@OGrice
Enough calculations done here:
goo.gl /nAF9O
When personal or national interests supersede what is good for ALL, opinions like yours will prevail.
Lets see how many panels you’ll sell to the averege indian, african or even american.
I guess enough for the german industrial machine to continue to return profits.
That’s the whole idea/plan behind it after all, eh?
C’mon… Admit it!
Angela’s panels, Ãœber Alles!
:-p
Oh how I wish the UK got enough sun to use solar power full time.
The UK should be towed towards the Med asap.
@Z1BABOUINOS pff whats real? firstly you cant enforce a steady fusion by money and secondly is it everything else than guaranteed green or thirdly CHEAP.. real are 30 year proofed technologies easily made of cheap dust and without a handicap for people from behind the moon. you are just too lazy to use a calculator..
@kurtilein3
The conversation we had, wasn’t about this video anyway. We talked about the efficiency of solar (and other green sources) in general, and about another video. If we keep pushing and spending in inefficient sources, instead of fusion, the real solution to the global problem, won’t be solved in 50 or even 100 years, in the present pace.
Governments are spending too much in very expensive and inefficient >band-aids<.
Unless, you're trying to hide what the REAL point is…
@kurtilein3 i also didnt read it really. its in fact just a hot medium in solar thermic plant. was irritated by the bad pictures. thought its a double way plant like i know it from the swiss already. 900wp/m2 isnt really bad. that may be 6300wh/day of thermal heat.that fits for larger buildings or industrial complexes,i prefer sheer electric power before consumption decreasing like insulation or improved water heating because there is a 96% effectivness on heating with electricity. quanta costa?
@Z1BABOUINOS
that doesnt apply here. These solar collectors, in the video, do not produce electricity….. But hot water. Solar collectors for hot water are much cheaper to produce (mirrors, metal tubes, black paint, no silicone crystals, no semiconductors), and much more effective. They dont increase energy production, but decrease energy consumption.
So your criticism just misses the point.
I wonder if commentary guy will fall asleep by the end of the video
@OGrice
You are not paying attention. Prof Cox does not address the cost issue. He assumes it is solved, and continues to how possible it is.
The enormous cost is a huge obstacle of course, BUT EVEN IF we bypass it somehow(?), the task itself, is ridiculously IMPOSSIBLE.
And if you rely on solar ALONE, then… it’s a joke. Crazy numbers, man!
And why is that? Cause simply, solar/wind/biof, are totally inefficient, even if combined together.
Fusion power ftw!
All the rest is noise….
i’d really like to talk with the young girls from roskosmos who were in their latest clip. they’ve got knowlegde. and i’d really like to know what type of thin cells they used for their satellites..
if a fusion is established all over the world in 50 years or more, you can pick em all up and burn em to what you want.
they’re also a safe for ressources like aluminum or copper, because they dont run away if settled one time. they’ll never get worthless, even after 30 or 40 years or more. they’re mobile enough to be sold second or thirdtime as used items.
@Acecool444 the hull of cells is sth to improve. the cells have to be welded into plastic or similar to make em leak-proof and to use the effect of reflecting unused spectrum as well as a lens effect.
@Z1BABOUINOS they don’t have to be efficient, they have to be cheap and to be obtainable like drinking water. thats possible with the most tested components we got, not with the newest or best.
In other words, Keep It Simple Stupid!
What about the MAGNIFYING GLASS? (could also be made of resin/plastics) Multiplying the suns rays? Now multiply thousands of them together per panel, then distance and angle them with the sun via computer timer and pressurized hydraulics. You could harness enough electricity over time to heat and energize just about anything.
@OGrice
Watch how many holes you have to burn in your ass, to call solar panels “efficient”…
CERN scientist, particle physicist, B.Cox, 4 min video from BBC:
goo.gl /nAF9O
@Dasmaster1 yeah you answered good^^ phoenix uploaded just a few minutes ago an interview with the chemist fritz vahrenholt from REpower who said co2 caused maybe only 50% of the delayed warm-up.. every guy who made a measurement in his life knows, that even the smallest input causes enormous errors – what did that guy ever do in his labratory? he’s still selling his age of fire..
Great news, sirs. May the whole world adhere, so the greed based on the struggle for combustible resources may be at least diminished. Let’s together put an end to the age of fire in which man is caught, once for all.
@OGrice I agree. People buying solar panels dont do it because of effectiveness. I was just answer another guys who complained about the bad efficiency solar panels have and that its the reason why there are not more of them.
@Z1BABOUINOS burns a second hole in your ass if you launch it tomorrow^^
i’m a fan of different types of panels and would always prefer an oldschool silicon-cell with an absolut sure effiency and reliability. i dont see any problems to cut wavers with the speed of light or to fix em somehow somewhere.